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. >> as i said about john paul, they came to see him. benedi benedict, they came to hear him. i think that will be his legacy. >> reporter: when the pope resigns at the end of the month, he'll continue to live the rest of his life at the vatican. some time in march the cardinals will gather to choose his successor. reporting live here in san jose, bob redell, nbc bay area news. >>> in the meantime, archbishop salvatore cordileone just announced this statement, quote, on behalf of the priests, religious and lay faithful of the archdiocese of san francisco, i express our deep gratitude to pope benedict xvi for his lifetime of tireless and self-ness service to the church. may god bless him and may god guide the college of cardinals as they choose his successor. >> on that subject, with the surprising resignation announcement coming today, vatican outsiders say they believe cardinal from ghana. is a spokesman for the church's social conscience. terkson would become the first black pope. also on the list of replacements mark uelett of the vatican who is head of the congregation of
. >> as i said about john paul, they came to see him. benedi benedict, they came to hear him. i think that will be his legacy. >> reporter: when the pope resigns at the end of the month, he'll continue to live the rest of his life at the vatican. some time in march the cardinals will gather to choose his successor. reporting live here in san jose, bob redell, nbc bay area news. >>> in the meantime, archbishop salvatore cordileone just announced this statement, quote, on...
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the french philosopher john paul, once said, when you choose for yourself you choose for all mankind. if we are okay sending drones over other countries to kill american citizens or other individuals without that country's permission, we have to acknowledge then that when this technology spreads to other countries and it will, it's not that sophisticated, that we're okay then with other governments doing the same thing and other countries and where does that lead exactly? >> on the same program, both of you, we have heard the phrase resin dets tra and reference to john paul. i'm proud of our program tonight. thank you very much, ron reagan, i'm going to quote him next week just to catch up with you and cynthia tucker. have a nice weekend. up next, texas governor rick perry escalates that fight, kind of a tussle, with california's jerry brown. i'm betting on brown in this one. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now to the side show. added heat on perry versus jerry today. i told you about the tussle between the governors of our two biggest states, texas and california. ric
the french philosopher john paul, once said, when you choose for yourself you choose for all mankind. if we are okay sending drones over other countries to kill american citizens or other individuals without that country's permission, we have to acknowledge then that when this technology spreads to other countries and it will, it's not that sophisticated, that we're okay then with other governments doing the same thing and other countries and where does that lead exactly? >> on the same...
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. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's never enjoyed being an administrator and he paid a price for that. his papacy will be remembered for its scandals. those endless sexual abuse coverups that cost more than $3 billion to settle. a string of financial scandals. benedict tried and failed to clean up corruption. and the notorious vatileaks scandal, with daily exposes in italian newspapers, a vatican back-stabbing in intrigue. he may have been the first pope to tweet, but as the leader, he tried to hold back the forces of modernity, refusing to expand the role of women. now, though, he is accepting the reality of the modern world. and the catholic church enters
. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's...
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paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and the physical strength to continue the very very strenuous tootsies that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings has officials in the vatican has said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will happen before easter but really a very very surprising announcement today from pope it is tom thank you for that update and to be talking to our correspondent peter all of in germany about this extraordinary resignation. for now let's talk to director of the national secular society keith portis word thanks for joining us here on r.t. today now well the reputation of the catholic church has been marred as not by various scandals recently but where there are any positives from pope benedict sixteenth tenure do you think. well sadly not because there were two major issues as really been mentioned
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he said, john paul led the church to the end because he was convinced that one doesn't come down from the cross. a lot of people interpreted that as essentially the pope taking the easy way out. he's elderly, he's tired and so he's going to retire. >> i think that would be a bad way to look at this. these are two decisions in conscious made by two men of conscious. john paul ii's decision to live his dying publically was his last great teaching moment and the world responded to that in a remarkable way. benedict xvi thought it wouldn't play out that way and he was not going to hold the stage simply to hold the stage. he was going to make a humble act of acceptance of what he believes is god's will. >> is he making the decision about when the conclave will start? there are a lot of people who will wait the 15 days. normally it would be a period of mourning, but the pope has not died. >> i find this frankly ratherer puzzling myself. i'm told the decision was made by the dean of the college of cardinals and the guy who runs the church, if you will. it does seem to me to be rather a long
he said, john paul led the church to the end because he was convinced that one doesn't come down from the cross. a lot of people interpreted that as essentially the pope taking the easy way out. he's elderly, he's tired and so he's going to retire. >> i think that would be a bad way to look at this. these are two decisions in conscious made by two men of conscious. john paul ii's decision to live his dying publically was his last great teaching moment and the world responded to that in a...
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paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and physical strength to continue the very very strenuous duties that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings his officials in the vatican who said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will happen before easter but really a very very surprising announcement today from pope it is tom thank you for that update and so will be talking to our correspondent peter out of germany about this extraordinary resignation. well for now let's talk to director of the national secular society keith porteous word thanks for joining us here on r.t. today now well the reputation of the catholic church has been marred as not by various scandals recently but where there are any positives from pope benedict sixteenth tenure do you think. well sadly not because there were two major issues as really been mentio
paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and physical strength to continue the very very strenuous duties that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings his officials in the vatican who said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will happen...
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paul the second died in two thousand and five however he has said today i do not have the mental and the physical strength anymore to continue my duties. i see that my drug needs those qualities and i no longer have them so i'm stepping down there is time the vatican has been large by a string of scandals as it will tell us about that it has indeed it's certainly been a difficult time pope benedict said it was reported to have said that he didn't really want the job of the pope and what a time to have been in the whole decision for fending off scandal after scandal that the church has been the catholic church has been mired in overarching them all the child abuse sex scandal involving a number of priests around the catholic church and he having to fend off that to try and bolster the reputation of the church which really took a a battering because of that crisis we've also got vatileaks a lot of leaked information about power struggles and possible corruption inside the vatican the vatican itself responding angrily to that saying the media was trying to play a dan brown book the popu
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john paul ii and benedict xvi further expanded and internationalized the college of cardinals. another factor for the conclave is the proliferation of the media, which challenges the vow of secrecy and perhaps also shapes the choices. inevitably, observers are making up their short lists of candidates, lists that have already been revised many times. and beyond the politics and the process and the pageantry, for the world's catholics, the conclave is ultimately a holy endeavor. i'm kim lawton, reporting. >> pope benedict's resignation is to take effect on february 28th. the college of cardinals is expected to convene in march, which means that a new pope will almost certainly have been chosen by easter. >>> in other news, in his state of the union speech this week, president obama addressed several issues of concern to many faith groups. the president pushed for stricter gun control, comprehensive immigration re and protections for senior and protections for senior citizens, the middle class and working families. some religious organizations praised obama's demand to raise the
john paul ii and benedict xvi further expanded and internationalized the college of cardinals. another factor for the conclave is the proliferation of the media, which challenges the vow of secrecy and perhaps also shapes the choices. inevitably, observers are making up their short lists of candidates, lists that have already been revised many times. and beyond the politics and the process and the pageantry, for the world's catholics, the conclave is ultimately a holy endeavor. i'm kim lawton,...
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that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009 at the time a spokesman said the pope was very impressed with the president and for his part the president said he looked forward to a very strong relationship between the united states and the vatican. today, the president said in part, quote: the church plays a critical role in the united states and the world and i wish the best of those who will soon gather to choose his holiness pope benedict the xvith successor. house speaker john boehner said the prayers and gratitude of american catholics are with pope benedict xvi today. our team fox coverage continues. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt
that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009...
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we know that john paul greatly embraced young people. it was a joy for many to see this pope go on twitter of all things and actually have a twitter account as incredible as that is. when you think about that he's 85 years old. but if we're to look at the legacy and relates to the next pope, how would you explain that or how do you see that? >> the last two popes that we have had have been intellectuals. they have come from academic backgrounds. they were both also bishops but, you know, they were people very comfortable in an academic scholarly setting. the cardinals may look for someone else. someone who's a manager, someone who's a diplomat. you know, the last conclave they looked around the room and they elected the smartest man in the room and the last two conclaves. in the next conclave, they may be looking for something else. as george mentioned, they may be looking for someone to reform the curia. that's someone who knows something about management. >> father, thank you so much for your time. george, always a pleasure to hear you
we know that john paul greatly embraced young people. it was a joy for many to see this pope go on twitter of all things and actually have a twitter account as incredible as that is. when you think about that he's 85 years old. but if we're to look at the legacy and relates to the next pope, how would you explain that or how do you see that? >> the last two popes that we have had have been intellectuals. they have come from academic backgrounds. they were both also bishops but, you know,...
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of course, pope john paul ii had been pope since 1979. and so, of course, his impact felt not only in the religious world but also the political world. pope benedict, though, never really, of course, given the chance to emerge from the shadows. and it seems that for a good bit of his time, he was dogged by allegations that came through the child abuse scandal throughout certainly before his reign. he was constantly being dogged by questions regarding that. but mark halperin, an iconic figure replaced by pope benedict who has had a very short tenure and now is stepping down in a way that a lot of popes don't step down before they die. >> short tenure, and it's going to be scrutinized for some of the issues you raised. to me now thinking forward, it's going to be a very big story for catholics and others around the world including the question of will it be another european? there's going to be pressure to look to another region of the country as there was last time. i think it may happen this time. >> it's interesting because we're getting
of course, pope john paul ii had been pope since 1979. and so, of course, his impact felt not only in the religious world but also the political world. pope benedict, though, never really, of course, given the chance to emerge from the shadows. and it seems that for a good bit of his time, he was dogged by allegations that came through the child abuse scandal throughout certainly before his reign. he was constantly being dogged by questions regarding that. but mark halperin, an iconic figure...
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pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all being sinners or is this just typical? >> what did he say about the problem of priestly sexual abuse before he became pope? he said we got to get rid of the filth. that was the word he used. these priests who would dare molest anybody. so he was an outspoken man. he knows we're all sinners. the pope himself goes to confession. he understands that. but he also understands most priests are good men and to have their name and their hair damage be smernlged -- >> i can't imagine the person who listens to the pope's confession. what a remarkable thing. bill, thank you for taking the time
pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all...
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he urged them to resign and john paul ii refused to do so. now, he says he just doesn't feel strong enough to do the job. if we take him at his word, he is following the advice that he tried to give john paul ii. >> february 28th, if you are catching up with us he said in two weekends, he will be gone and have a conclave and elect a new pope. >> once he is done he is going to continue living on the vatican grounds. they weren't sure what was going to be done. he is going to continue living on the vatican grounds. they say they are going to have the new pope picked in early march. there is not going to be much of a transition time. the front runner because they are look making odds on who it might be, the frontrunner is turkson and he is ghanian and he would be the first black pope. >> there is a little dispute. they are in the early stages. >> okay. >>. >> north african popes. >> that's interesting. >> all right. hill every is out of a job. it would give her a couple of weeks rest. she could do the job. she could be a catholic. is there any r
he urged them to resign and john paul ii refused to do so. now, he says he just doesn't feel strong enough to do the job. if we take him at his word, he is following the advice that he tried to give john paul ii. >> february 28th, if you are catching up with us he said in two weekends, he will be gone and have a conclave and elect a new pope. >> once he is done he is going to continue living on the vatican grounds. they weren't sure what was going to be done. he is going to continue...
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following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is joining us. sanjay, what do we know about the pope's health as of late? >> well, you know, not much that's new here, wolf. and i think that's part of the reason this came as a surprise to so many people. certainly we know his age, 85 years old, and as a physician there's all sorts of different things that you certainly worry about. cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, stroke. he had a hemorrhage in his brain they think back in 1991 that may have been due to a stroke. but a long time ago, and there was no evidence of anything recently along those lines. he had a fall where he broke his wrist in 2009. and there's been pictures of him where he seems to maybe more increasing
following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is joining us. sanjay, what do we know about the pope's health as of late? >> well, you know, not much that's new...
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following john paul ii. that was a hard act to follow. they were looking for an elderly pontiff who would not be in position for that long and also there was no way anybody was going to top john paul ii in terms of charisma, in reaching out to the young, and, unfortunately, they didn't get a salgzman for catholicism in this particular pope, which will be a very important ingredient for the next one. >> he also had the burdens of dealing with the scandals after 27 years of john paul ii. he had to focus on the apology, the fact that he had actually met individually in his role as cardinal ratzinger investigating some of the problems of the abuse in the american church. >> he did go some way in terms of, you know, issuing an apology from the pope as a pretty lofty ideal, but, many of the, we still have a problem, many of the, worldwide with the sex scandal and the catholic church. they haven't addressed it at all levels. the vatican can pools. they can set lawsuits. there are a lot of damaged people out there who were basically abused as chi
following john paul ii. that was a hard act to follow. they were looking for an elderly pontiff who would not be in position for that long and also there was no way anybody was going to top john paul ii in terms of charisma, in reaching out to the young, and, unfortunately, they didn't get a salgzman for catholicism in this particular pope, which will be a very important ingredient for the next one. >> he also had the burdens of dealing with the scandals after 27 years of john paul ii. he...
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it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of payp paypalcy. i think benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry and he's kaifred it with decency but he's had a different feeling toward the office. >> what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> it depends where you look nchl some places it's very healthy and growing. in other places it's declining in numbers and suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face and there are divisions within the church between liberals and conservatives as there always are. sometimes they've been exacerbated in recent years. >> we now want to return to allen pizzey who is live in rome. i guess this sets up a conclave in mid-march to choose a new pope, right. >> reporter: yes, he does. he said he's resigning on february 28th. there are 100 cardinals under the age of 80 who are technically eligible to vote in the conclave. there may be a couple more than that. they're in kind of a transition period. what happens is the cardinals gather from around the world in ro
it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of payp paypalcy. i think benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry and he's kaifred it with decency but he's had a different feeling toward the office. >> what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> it depends where you look nchl some places it's very healthy and growing. in other places it's declining in numbers and suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face and...
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there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gon
there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the...
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it will be great to have an american pope. >> bob: i had a chance to meet john paul ii in the late '70s. for a guy who was old then, he had enormous energy. travelled around the world. the last two or three years he was stuck in the vatican because his health was deteriorating. a good modern step to take. most of the people if you look at the age of people in line, late 60s, early 70s. >> kimberly: those are the rules. >> bob: 42% of the catholics in this world are in south america. there is a strong push for latin american pope to succeed benedict. i wouldn't surprised to see it happen in this round. whether dolan has a shot or not, i don't know. relatively new cardinal. going to vatican, the politicking around these things are remarkable. two weeks to do it. a lot of politics. >> greg: sandra fluke wants a non-catholic in there. >> dana: this is defilement of the anti-catholic sentimen sentiment. there is love thrown his way as well. but i was surprised how disgusting some of the comments were against the catholic church and against the pope. >> kimberly: this is interesting because t
it will be great to have an american pope. >> bob: i had a chance to meet john paul ii in the late '70s. for a guy who was old then, he had enormous energy. travelled around the world. the last two or three years he was stuck in the vatican because his health was deteriorating. a good modern step to take. most of the people if you look at the age of people in line, late 60s, early 70s. >> kimberly: those are the rules. >> bob: 42% of the catholics in this world are in south...
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benedict xvi had are reputation for being more consived than john paul 2nd. many say he is more scholarly. and sought to return the church to its roots and left a church reeling with sex scandals and declipping numbers. what else are experts saying about the legacy? >> well, he led the catholic church, of course, for seven years, ten months, and nine days, in total. a not insignificant time. experts all say he will be seen as a transitional rather than a transformational pope. that is not to say some of his actions weren't significant, though. for instance, they say that his outreach to the muslim world, including visiting the blue mosque in turkey, was a very significant action, and, according to greg tobin, he was the first pope to truly face up to see sex abuse scandal. listen. >> he will bled as someone who did more than anyone else before him, that's foresheet. john paul ii left a legacy of inaction and avoidance, and benedict faced it head on and before he became pope he was aware of many of these cases, and he also engaged in a personal outreach to vic
benedict xvi had are reputation for being more consived than john paul 2nd. many say he is more scholarly. and sought to return the church to its roots and left a church reeling with sex scandals and declipping numbers. what else are experts saying about the legacy? >> well, he led the catholic church, of course, for seven years, ten months, and nine days, in total. a not insignificant time. experts all say he will be seen as a transitional rather than a transformational pope. that is not...
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he had big shoes to fill in 2005 when he succeeded john paul, ii. one of his biggest tasks is responding to the priest scandal. today they called it a decision of great importance for the life of the church and said he will dedicate the rest of his life to prayer. >> as you can imagine the pope's announcement sent shock waives around the world. our complete coverage continues outside the catholic center downtown. mike schuh has more on what the archbishop of baltimore said. good afternoon. >> reporter: good afternoon. in short, it come s as a shock. the arch diaces had an arranged news conference within the past hour. arch bishop lori said he was plan -- planning a quiet morning. >> at a news conference the arch diaces of baltimore respected the decision. >> my single task this morning is to request the prayers of the faithful of the arch diaces of baltimore and the prayers of all women and men of goodwill for pope benedict as he concludes his long and loving service to the church. >> earlier after morning mass i shared the news with this person. >>
he had big shoes to fill in 2005 when he succeeded john paul, ii. one of his biggest tasks is responding to the priest scandal. today they called it a decision of great importance for the life of the church and said he will dedicate the rest of his life to prayer. >> as you can imagine the pope's announcement sent shock waives around the world. our complete coverage continues outside the catholic center downtown. mike schuh has more on what the archbishop of baltimore said. good...
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[laughter] now, the early favorite is the archbishop of milan angelo scola until john paul ii italians held the papacy for 50 0 years. it was the ultimate dynasty like the yankees only with less money. cardinal mark ouelette is a major front runner with one problem: he's a canadian. p.m. saying, i don't think god wants you to use a condom, aye, won't work. who wants a pope with a staff like this. [ laughter ] some are brgt on a third world pope like ghana's peter turkson who would be the first block pope of 1500 years sending a message of inclusion and virtually guaranteeing tyler perry's madea goes to rome. [cheers and applause] hello. hello. [laughter] folks, i say it's high time we had an american pope. [cheers and applause] after all -- [cheers and applause] after all, god is an american. that's why the intiebl in english. [ laughter ] and there's a great candidate. >> timothy dolan is the most powerful catholic in the country, the president of president catholic bisons. >> stephen: even more important dole january my personal bff: bishop friend forever. [cheers and applause] and t
[laughter] now, the early favorite is the archbishop of milan angelo scola until john paul ii italians held the papacy for 50 0 years. it was the ultimate dynasty like the yankees only with less money. cardinal mark ouelette is a major front runner with one problem: he's a canadian. p.m. saying, i don't think god wants you to use a condom, aye, won't work. who wants a pope with a staff like this. [ laughter ] some are brgt on a third world pope like ghana's peter turkson who would be the first...
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paul ii. he was the oldest person to become pontiff in 275 years. benedict xvi was a conservative pope, he strongly opposed to birth control, but he embraced new forms of communication and joined twitter last year. pope benedict faced a string of challenges during his term from sexual abuse scandals involving the members of the clergy to an investigation into money laundering in vatican city. a court convicted his former butler last year of stealing and leaking classified documents that pointed to corruption in the vatican. the pope pardoned him over christmas. it's rare for a pope to resign. pope benedict is the first to quit in nearly 600 years. senior members of the catholic church will now start planning their conclave, the meeting they hold to choose a successor. >>> police in the united states are investigating yet another case of gun violence. pop ben fikt benedict xvi will be one of the most religious thinkers of the age. >> the president says he has warm memories. the meeting drew att
paul ii. he was the oldest person to become pontiff in 275 years. benedict xvi was a conservative pope, he strongly opposed to birth control, but he embraced new forms of communication and joined twitter last year. pope benedict faced a string of challenges during his term from sexual abuse scandals involving the members of the clergy to an investigation into money laundering in vatican city. a court convicted his former butler last year of stealing and leaking classified documents that pointed...
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paul ii who reigned as pope for 25 years. >> he had a hard act to follow. >> a very difficult act. >> reporter: father james marten is editor at large of the magazine "america". >> he is the beloved professor. >> reporter: benedict was a shy man with a great reputation in the church. a theologian a strong advocate for a return to tradition in the face of the modern world. but these were hard years for the catholic church and the pope. there was the agony of the sex abuse scandal in several countries. timothy dolan reflected on the toll of it all. >> when he speaks about the church, when he speaks about christian life they are the most noble, loving, the most elevated sentiments you can have. and for him to see the troubles, the corruption, the scandals that have always inflicted members of the church that's got to weigh on him. >> reporter: another scandal, his personal butler stole a trove of his private correspondence and leaked it to the media. >> he was an incredible shepherd and just someone i would look to as one of the great leaders in our church. >> reporter: and now he is le
paul ii who reigned as pope for 25 years. >> he had a hard act to follow. >> a very difficult act. >> reporter: father james marten is editor at large of the magazine "america". >> he is the beloved professor. >> reporter: benedict was a shy man with a great reputation in the church. a theologian a strong advocate for a return to tradition in the face of the modern world. but these were hard years for the catholic church and the pope. there was the agony...
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with john paul ii he knew he was dying. i don't think benedict is so seriously ill that he's going to die but he could -- you know, live for another 10 years. he's got an older brother. and being in the papacy and not to be up for the job. so i think he decided that it was best for the church to go at this point and let someone else carry the burden. >> bill: now as "the new york times" says, the church is at a crossroads in the sense that where the church used to be strong, it is not so much anymore and it is in a developing world in africa and in south america and in asia where the church is showing great growth. what does that say about a future pope? >> well, there's two theories here. one is you go and find somebody from africa where the church is truly growing. on the other hand, the other theory is no, you look for someone who can deal with the problems of the church, where it has real big problems, namely europe where it is in decline or the united states where one out of three catholics has left the church. so i th
with john paul ii he knew he was dying. i don't think benedict is so seriously ill that he's going to die but he could -- you know, live for another 10 years. he's got an older brother. and being in the papacy and not to be up for the job. so i think he decided that it was best for the church to go at this point and let someone else carry the burden. >> bill: now as "the new york times" says, the church is at a crossroads in the sense that where the church used to be strong, it...
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most recently, pope john paul. before the body is moved across st. peter's square to the basilica. unlike all of the past popes whose reign ended in this room, benedict is the first to leave office still breathing. like a king, attending his own funeral. today, the dean of the college of cardinals thanked him for his service. benedict stood up and embraced him. the pope wasn't expected to speak, but he did. saying, among you is also the future pope, to whom i pledge my unconditional reverence and obedience. that hasn't been an issue for 600 years. today, vatican cameras will follow benedict's departure, minute-by-minute. 19 cameras documenting his trip, live. every angle covered, from his final wave at st. peter's. they'll be there with him on the helicopter, as he flies to castel gandolfo. there, he'll greet the faithful one last time from the balcony. and then, tonight at 8:00 p.m., the swiss guard will leave and the gates will close. symbolically signaling that benedict is no longer pope. so, who is actually in charge in the interim? the papal camalango is in state. we're sure i
most recently, pope john paul. before the body is moved across st. peter's square to the basilica. unlike all of the past popes whose reign ended in this room, benedict is the first to leave office still breathing. like a king, attending his own funeral. today, the dean of the college of cardinals thanked him for his service. benedict stood up and embraced him. the pope wasn't expected to speak, but he did. saying, among you is also the future pope, to whom i pledge my unconditional reverence...
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he hasn't been the media star that john paul ii used to be. he has just tidecided to stay te to his character. and made the announcement not lock like such a big deal. >> claudio lavagna in rome. we will be check iing in with y throughout the morning. and now with more here is savannah. >> thanks, matt. >>> a consultant, thank you for being with us. >> hello. >> george, it's savannah. an incredibly surprising turn of events. what is the process for replace ing a pope under these circumstances? >> savannah, let's pause on that first statement just a moment. this is a surprise in that it hasn't happened in 717 years, but it's not a surprise in that benedict xvi has, on several public occasions and in his most recent interview book said that if he ever reached the judgment in conscience, as that statement said today, that he could not give the church the service it deserves because of advancing age or ill health that he would abdicate. i think it's a great statement about the humility of joseph ratzinger, as he will become at the moment of his ab
he hasn't been the media star that john paul ii used to be. he has just tidecided to stay te to his character. and made the announcement not lock like such a big deal. >> claudio lavagna in rome. we will be check iing in with y throughout the morning. and now with more here is savannah. >> thanks, matt. >>> a consultant, thank you for being with us. >> hello. >> george, it's savannah. an incredibly surprising turn of events. what is the process for replace ing a...
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and he says he will be looking for continuity with the conservative teachings of benedict and john paul. >> there's a basic doctrine that is bedrock or catholic faith. >> but many american catholics are pushing for change, including david lawrence of bowie, who was abused by his priest and guidance counselor at a catholic high school. >> at 16? >> by an adult priest. >> lauren says pope benedict offered comforting words. >> this pope has done nothing. >> but that he has failed to punish bishops for hiding abusive priests and for covering up the sexual abuse of children that is tearing the church apart. >> this thing is going to haunt them from now, for another thousand years until they stand up and address it and come clean. >> some catholic see the resignation as a sign of his greatness. >> it's an example of humility. we support him and i think the church is stronger than ever. >> among those attending mass at noon on a monday, a sense that continuity is a good thing. >> these are our leaders that said, here is what jesus taught us. >> he would at least consider picking the next ponti
and he says he will be looking for continuity with the conservative teachings of benedict and john paul. >> there's a basic doctrine that is bedrock or catholic faith. >> but many american catholics are pushing for change, including david lawrence of bowie, who was abused by his priest and guidance counselor at a catholic high school. >> at 16? >> by an adult priest. >> lauren says pope benedict offered comforting words. >> this pope has done nothing....
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dorris, pop john paul, ii greeted some of the 900 guests and then approached the nine pews of aids patients and certainly the most moving moment came when 4- year-old brendon o'rourke in his father's arms reached out to hug the holy father. >>> little brendan contracted aids from a blood transfusion at birth. the pope then moved to other aids suffers, most of them gay. it was the first time the leader of the catholic church has met directly with aids suffers. ♪ [ music ] [ applause ] >> from there the pope went alone to pray in the old mission, the oldest building in san francisco. >>> in prepared remarks the pope proclaimed the unconditional and everlastthing love of god for all people, dwelling at lengths on sin and forgiveness. he did not mention homosexuality and only once refered to aids suffers. >> be last, those of you who are sick, those who are suffering from aids and from aids related complex -- >> but it wasn't what the pope said publicly the faithful catholics here will most remember, it was the way the holy father personally moved each one of them. [ singing ] ♪ [ music ] >
dorris, pop john paul, ii greeted some of the 900 guests and then approached the nine pews of aids patients and certainly the most moving moment came when 4- year-old brendon o'rourke in his father's arms reached out to hug the holy father. >>> little brendan contracted aids from a blood transfusion at birth. the pope then moved to other aids suffers, most of them gay. it was the first time the leader of the catholic church has met directly with aids suffers. ♪ [ music ] [ applause ]...
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anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are pretty much all here, and they had a time to gather at his resignation, which was announced a couple weeks ago. they're not all here yet, and we understand that the first formal meeting of all the cardinals will happen on monday, and only then will they decide what date to actually establish the first day of the conclave, and at that point those cardinals who are eligible to vote will start their secret deliberations. we're not sure when. we're told somewhere potentially around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> christiane, i appreciate it. >>> he's been stripped of public duties after thousands of pages, th
anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are...
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. >> it is a valid opinion and that is what john paul ii did but i think if my opinion this is really an act of boldness on the part of this pope and, also, an act of great humility. >> the church will turn its attention to the successor, and a bay area man will be part of that decision. the cardinal will be in voting on the next pope. >> a lot of times someone who is appointed a cardinal which 10 great thing in itself never gets to vote for a pope so this is a big deal. >> the archbishop of san francisco released a written statement praising the pope for his service and the archdiocese says parishes will pray for the pope and his successor. >> a clergyman from california will vote even for the next pope, although he is banned from public duties because of the way he handle the sexual abuse cases. cardinal mahony headed the archdiocese of los angeles and the current archbishop banished him from duties after he found out he dismissed sexual abuse cases of priests. >> after the resignation on february 28, a secret group of cardinals begins in 15 to 20 days in manner. the vatican hopes t
. >> it is a valid opinion and that is what john paul ii did but i think if my opinion this is really an act of boldness on the part of this pope and, also, an act of great humility. >> the church will turn its attention to the successor, and a bay area man will be part of that decision. the cardinal will be in voting on the next pope. >> a lot of times someone who is appointed a cardinal which 10 great thing in itself never gets to vote for a pope so this is a big deal....
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still, john paul ii, at the end, one of us -- was unable to watkins began still carried on until he died. pope benedict xvi decided to go against all the rules as the last poll that resigned and that was in the 13th century. this suggests to give way to a younger pope that maybe has got more strength and stamina to carry on with the church as mission. >> for continuing coverage of the pope paul's credit -- resignation, log onto wbaltv.com and you can take a look back at his career. this afternoon, mayor stephanie raleigh's blake will give an evaluation of baltimore in her state of the city address and will discuss the 10-year fiscal forecast which recently showed the city needs to make mustard -- need to make major budget changes. it's the city's -- -- get this city stays in its current spending trajectory, it will be the -- in the whole within 10 years. economists said they cannot tax more. they said the mayor will announce major cuts and she has given hands of the changes and that will include eliminating the structural deficit and altering the city's tax structure to make baltimore mo
still, john paul ii, at the end, one of us -- was unable to watkins began still carried on until he died. pope benedict xvi decided to go against all the rules as the last poll that resigned and that was in the 13th century. this suggests to give way to a younger pope that maybe has got more strength and stamina to carry on with the church as mission. >> for continuing coverage of the pope paul's credit -- resignation, log onto wbaltv.com and you can take a look back at his career. this...
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>> it's interesting, in our lifetime, pope paul the vi was in his 80s and pope john paul ii was 85. it depends. it depends. what the cardinals are looking for, what the cardinals are seeking in someone to take pope benedict's place, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather, it was a interesting and different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know, from having met him, the gentle kind way that he had. but, you know, i think that depends on what the college of cardinals is looking for. pope benedict was a teacher and he spent his time teaching and he taught well and with great clarity. so, it is a matter of preference of the college of cardinals and as we believe in the church the working of the holy spirit. >> we will stay in close touch with you, bishop. thank you so much, and thank you for everything that you have done. thanks for inviting me to catholic university, i appreciate it and thank you for coming here to the situation room. >> it was great to be with you, wolf, you take care. god bl
>> it's interesting, in our lifetime, pope paul the vi was in his 80s and pope john paul ii was 85. it depends. it depends. what the cardinals are looking for, what the cardinals are seeking in someone to take pope benedict's place, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather, it was a interesting and different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know, from having met him, the gentle kind way that he...
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>> when john paul ii was ill, basically they knew what was coming. so they had time to prepare, to talk, to look at the challenges and to look at candidates, possible candidates. that is now not the case. yes, of course, people have been looking at the pope-- >> we're going to put up a list of some of those being considered. is age going to be a factor? this pope was 78 when he was being considered, very old, most cardinals have to retire after age 80. will age be a factor in the decision? >> it might or might not be. the reason i say it might not be, the pope has now resigned. in other words, he has done something that nobody thought of in the past. well, they speculated about it but never thought it could clearly happen. when they elected him, one of the factors could be they elected an older pope because he wouldn't last as long. among the challenges the next pope will face is the evangelization and being able to reach out and address others and of course the major concern, a worldwide among catholics is still adequately addressing the sex abuse s
>> when john paul ii was ill, basically they knew what was coming. so they had time to prepare, to talk, to look at the challenges and to look at candidates, possible candidates. that is now not the case. yes, of course, people have been looking at the pope-- >> we're going to put up a list of some of those being considered. is age going to be a factor? this pope was 78 when he was being considered, very old, most cardinals have to retire after age 80. will age be a factor in the...
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john paul the second tended to be more skeptical about all the the accusations of sexual abuse. >>reporter: he says when benedict was elected in 2005 he was more willing to take action against these priests. and make it more public. lennon abused when he was 13 says he hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a morale authority as opposed to being in the dungeon of the vial corruption that it is now. >> this scan today has cost the catholic church more than 2 billion dollars in settlement. in san francisco, abc 7 news. >> one clergy man from california plans to vote for the next pope even though he has been banned from public duties because of the way he handles sexual abuse cases. cardinal roger mahoney used to head the archdiocese of los angeles. he was ban he should from most duties after it was revealed he mishandled cases involving suspected priests who were pedophiles. mahoney release add statement today saying he looks forward to traveling to rome to participate in the conclave.
john paul the second tended to be more skeptical about all the the accusations of sexual abuse. >>reporter: he says when benedict was elected in 2005 he was more willing to take action against these priests. and make it more public. lennon abused when he was 13 says he hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a morale authority as opposed to being in the dungeon of the vial corruption that...
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because just as when john paul ii was sick and dying nobody was talking about the next pope, but now we just saw the helicopter leave the vatican. that was pope benedict's way of saying, now i'm out of the picture, now you do your jobs. if you wer he were still in the vatican or behind the vatican walls in some other apartment that they would be a little bit cautious in talking about in straight talk what is needed for the church. that is about to begin. jon: the helicopter on its way to castle gandolfo. we understand that the pope willee ph*erpblg, hwill emerge. he will make some statements or issue a greeting to the people of castle gandolfo, which is also the name of the village there. he will -- >> that's right. jon: from a window there in the quarters at the summer residence he will issue some kind of a greeting to the people of castle gandolfo. then at exactly 8:00pm, which is 2:00pm eastern time in this country, 11:00am on the west coast a bell will ring and a sergeant of the swiss guard will order the guard on-duty to leave his po*erbgs and a post and at that point the massiv
because just as when john paul ii was sick and dying nobody was talking about the next pope, but now we just saw the helicopter leave the vatican. that was pope benedict's way of saying, now i'm out of the picture, now you do your jobs. if you wer he were still in the vatican or behind the vatican walls in some other apartment that they would be a little bit cautious in talking about in straight talk what is needed for the church. that is about to begin. jon: the helicopter on its way to castle...
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paul ii or pope benedict xvi. the things like ordination of women in the priesthood, i do not believe it's realistic to think that whoever emerges from the sistine chapel is the next pope of the catholic church is going to overturn church teachings on those points. i do think what is perhaps not only realistic, but quite probable, is that one thing that is very much going to be on the minds of the cardinals who are electing the next pope, whatever else they do, it is critical to make sure whoever they pick has a profile of having clean hands on the crisis, that is, he has to come across as part of the solution to this crisis rather than part of the problem. >> john, thanks so much for your analysis as always. and also, michael, thanks for joining us. >> coming up, the oscar pistorius case apracticing worldwide attention. everybody has an opinion on what they believe happened. >> wait until you see this story. a mother and father in south africa they know they say firsthand what the athlete is going through. humans
paul ii or pope benedict xvi. the things like ordination of women in the priesthood, i do not believe it's realistic to think that whoever emerges from the sistine chapel is the next pope of the catholic church is going to overturn church teachings on those points. i do think what is perhaps not only realistic, but quite probable, is that one thing that is very much going to be on the minds of the cardinals who are electing the next pope, whatever else they do, it is critical to make sure...